Ether Renewal - Nerf or not? - Guild Wars Forums

MarkyX · Sep 05, 2005, 12:51 PM // 12:51

Anyone from Anet plan on nerfing this way overpowered elite? Any rumors?

Maxiemonster · Sep 05, 2005, 02:20 PM // 14:20

It's not overpowered, stfu.

Bingley Joe · Sep 05, 2005, 03:21 PM // 15:21

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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

It's not overpowered, stfu.

Are you sure??

I mean, MarkyX says it's "way overpowered" without explaining how. Or anything for that matter.

Ought to be enough to get someone over here from ANet to do a little nerfing, doncha think?

Maxiemonster · Sep 05, 2005, 03:53 PM // 15:53

Seriously, it's not as overpowered as you people think. And at least there's a counter against Smite groups like this..

MarkyX · Sep 05, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

Seriously, it's not as overpowered as you people think. And at least there's a counter against Smite groups like this..

http://photobucket.com/albums/v32/pa...rent=ether.jpg

Nuff said.

Draken · Sep 05, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08

I have a feeling we are going to look back at this skill and go "remmber when you could use it to do..." i wouldnt worry about it too much.

Homo · Sep 05, 2005, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Looks to be improbable to me. With a max 10 seconds of casting time and 20 seconds afterwards of waittime with -10 energy degen. There is no way to maintain all those enchantments without the degen bringing the energy down to 0 within the 20 seconds of downtime. Seems very fishy...........

Draken · Sep 05, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05

your right that was totaly photoshoped.

Tony Blair · Sep 05, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22

One pip of energy regen/degen is .33 energy a second. So 10 pips of energy degen, the max, is the same as losing 3.33 energy a second. Over 20 seconds of downtime he will lose 66.66 energy. He has well over 100 energy. An Ether Renewal will bring him to max in no time, which means he can maintain an unlimited amount of enchantments (in this case 80), since energy degen caps at -10.

P.S. Yes please nerf the skill.

warped314 · Sep 06, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by MarkyX

http://photobucket.com/albums/v32/pa...rent=ether.jpg

Nuff said.

rofl

I'm sorry, but really, you guys make ether renewal out to be the most utterly devastating elite ever created. Let's see what can put down a person 'abusing' ether renewal, typically an e/mo smiter.

Diversion - If your group doesn't run a mesmer in the first place, well darn, I guess you overlooked the fact every other group runs smiting nowadays, or casters for that matter.
Lingering Curse, Rend Enchantments - A good necromancer, almost never missing from a good group, always runs either one of these skills, either one also makes a smiter effectively useless besides judge's insight.
Backfire - Oh darn, looks like draw conditions does around 140 damage to you now every time you cast it.
Various Mesmer Interrupts - Same description with diversion.
Distracting Shot - Granted not all groups run a ranger.
Signet of Humility - Self Explanatory.

E/Mo smiters revolve around enchantments, ether renewal, and draw conditions. If you run a few simple skills to counter this, smiting should not be a problem for your group, and you have a nice soft target for your killing pleasure.

Mandy Memory · Sep 06, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23

Just because there are a select few counters, that doesnt stop it from being overpowered.

It got a boost before release...and it was overpowered before....Unlimited energy, come on....

Missy Osiris · Sep 06, 2005, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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Originally Posted by MarkyX

Anyone from Anet plan on nerfing this way overpowered elite? Any rumors?

What the hell is wrong with you people with nerfing stuff ? Get a life ..and stop making others life a nitemare ... if you are not happy with it ..join in the fun or stfu

The Amazing Krandor · Sep 06, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

The problem, as evidenced by the screenshot, is not Ether Renewal, but the -10 energy degen cap. That is the aspect of the game that is being abused, not the skill.

Eonwe · Sep 06, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by warped314

I'm sorry, but really, you guys make ether renewal out to be the most utterly devastating elite ever created. Let's see what can put down a person 'abusing' ether renewal, typically an e/mo smiter.

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Originally Posted by The Amazing Krandor

The problem, as evidenced by the screenshot, is not Ether Renewal, but the -10 energy degen cap. That is the aspect of the game that is being abused, not the skill.

The skill itself is broken, being the most ridiculous energy engine in the game. That screenshot was just posted to show how retarded the skill is for regainging energy. I suggest that you try reading this post before you make nonsensical statements.

Edit: And the skill will be recieveing a nerf

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Sep 05, 2005, 12:51 PM // 12:51	#1
MarkyX Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005	Ether Renewal - Nerf or not? Anyone from Anet plan on nerfing this way overpowered elite? Any rumors?

Sep 05, 2005, 02:20 PM // 14:20	#2
Maxiemonster There is no spoon. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Netherlands Profession: Mo/	It's not overpowered, stfu.

Sep 05, 2005, 03:53 PM // 15:53	#4
Maxiemonster There is no spoon. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Netherlands Profession: Mo/	Seriously, it's not as overpowered as you people think. And at least there's a counter against Smite groups like this..

Sep 05, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08	#6
Draken Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Exiled	I have a feeling we are going to look back at this skill and go "remmber when you could use it to do..." i wouldnt worry about it too much.

Sep 05, 2005, 07:20 PM // 19:20	#7
Homo Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	Looks to be improbable to me. With a max 10 seconds of casting time and 20 seconds afterwards of waittime with -10 energy degen. There is no way to maintain all those enchantments without the degen bringing the energy down to 0 within the 20 seconds of downtime. Seems very fishy...........

Sep 05, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#8
Draken Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Exiled	your right that was totaly photoshoped.

Sep 05, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22	#9
Tony Blair Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: VA	One pip of energy regen/degen is .33 energy a second. So 10 pips of energy degen, the max, is the same as losing 3.33 energy a second. Over 20 seconds of downtime he will lose 66.66 energy. He has well over 100 energy. An Ether Renewal will bring him to max in no time, which means he can maintain an unlimited amount of enchantments (in this case 80), since energy degen caps at -10. P.S. Yes please nerf the skill.

Sep 06, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23	#11
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	Just because there are a select few counters, that doesnt stop it from being overpowered. It got a boost before release...and it was overpowered before....Unlimited energy, come on....

Sep 06, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45	#13
The Amazing Krandor Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Me/N	The problem, as evidenced by the screenshot, is not Ether Renewal, but the -10 energy degen cap. That is the aspect of the game that is being abused, not the skill.